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Sea Sentry's avatar

So Matt, I live in California, which has a substantial renewables portfolio of wind and solar. If renewables are supposed to pull down grid clearing RTO prices, why does California have the highest electricity prices per kWh in the U.S.?

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Ian Walker's avatar

Your insights are always interesting. But your points only hold in the short term. The variable cost of renewables and resultant price is very low even without subsidies. But this short term view belies their full cycle costs and the effective price to society. (i.e. Subsidies are a “price” paid by taxpayers More importantly, the longer term costs and resulting required prices for sustainable supply that are caused by all of the necessary redundancies (low capacity factors, back up caused by redundancies whether they be batteries which are idle investments when charging or hydrocarbon back up which is idle when renewables are producing). It may turn out that renewables ultimately are cheaper in the long run, but your argument about short term pricing that is largely if not completely related to variable costs is incomplete and short sighted. I’d like to see your full cycle analysis.

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